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Alright Republicans, We Give Up.

SHOE.jpg in my mind, I have been steaming about a the absurdity of the most current actions by the right regarding the efforts to move forward with some sort of healthcare reform.....i haven't had the patience to write a coherant rant, then i just saw this, and it seems to address some of the issues, read, discuss, rant, etc....thanks:

Alright Republicans, We Give Up.
by Stroszek
Sun Aug 09, 2009 at 12:48:52 PM PDT
(From the diaries -- kos)

Dear Republicans,

Over the past week, we have seen your passionate protests and heard your concerns about Democratic proposals for health care reform. We have considered your insightful and well reasoned arguments, and on behalf of progressives everywhere, I am here to say: OK! We give up! We are willing to compromise on the proposals that concern you. You've won! Yay!

In accordance with your cogent and potent criticisms, these are the terms of our concession:

1. We will not euthanize your grandmother. This is the big one, and I really hope you guys appreciate how much of a concession this is on behalf of the progressive movement. Since the days of the Bull Moose Party, progressives have wanted nothing more than to slaughter old people by the millions. That much is obvious. After all, if we wanted senior citizens to have long and healthy lives, why would we have created Social Security and Medicare? Think about it. Death to grannies has long been the core of progressive policy, so it's not without some consternation that we give it up. So there: no euthanizing old people. You've got it.

2. Rahm Emanuel's brother will not kill Sarah Palin's baby. While this will require us to gut HR 3200 "America's Health Choices and Murder Sarah Palin's Baby Act of 2009," we're currently working with Henry Waxman to remove the extensive Sarah Palin's baby-killing provisions from the final bill. While this will probably cost us Andrew Sullivan's support, we recognize that this is a necessary sacrifice for securing broad bipartisan support of health care reform.

3. The government will not nationalize hospitals and other health service providers. This is another big one. Though the U.S. Chamber of Commerce has correctly pointed out that current Democratic proposals involve adopting the British health care system, we now recognize that this is not politically viable. The final bill, accordingly, will not involve the nationalization of hospitals and other health service providers. This will be a major setback to Obama's well known communist agenda, but again, we progressives agree with the Blue Dogs that we need to reach a broad national consensus by responding to Republican concerns.

4. We will make the health care reform bill available for all Americans to read as soon as possible. I know that conservatives and pundits have been eagerly anticipating an opportunity to read the final health care reform bill, and after extensive discussion, we have decided to comply with your request. While we would like to have unseen drafts languishing in committee forever, we have asked Senate Democrats like Max Baucus and Kent Conrad to deliver a bill as soon as possible in order to allow the public to read it. As you know, progressives wanted nothing more than to keep these drafts hidden for as long as possible, but in the interests of transparency and bipartisan consensus, we recognize that it's vital to move the legislative process forward. In fact, it is our hope that Baucus and Conrad will return from the August recess early in order to ensure that the public has as much time as possible to inspect their work.

5. We will not subsidize abortions with your hard-earned tax dollars. Despite the fact that both FactCheck.org and Politifact insist that we already made this concession months ago, we're going to make extra-special-super sure that we did. Just give me a second...
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... yep, we did.

6. We will not allow the government to have direct access to your bank account. I know several conservatives I've spoken to are deeply concerned about this measure, and while we progressives are always looking for new ways for the government to unlawfully violate your privacy and steal your money, we have decided to remove this provision from the final bill. While we may include a way for individuals to voluntarily set up an electronic funds transfer with their insurance provider, we will no longer push for government access to all individual bank accounts. You've won this one.

7. We will not provide illegal immigrants with unlimited free health care. Though progressives want nothing more than to provide unlimited social services to illegal immigrants while denying them to everyone else, we now recognize that this plan was, perhaps, a bit inequitable. However, while they will not be receiving unlimited free health care, each illegal immigrant will still receive a pretty pony. I'm sorry, but we have to draw the line somewhere.

8. Private health insurance will not be eliminated. Though, as Drudge recently pointed out with a damning YouTube video, the long-stated Republican goal of moving away from employer-based coverage somehow means "eliminating private insurance" when Obama talks about the same thing, we've decided to preserve private insurance plans for those who want them. However, we have yet to convince ultra-socialist Charles Krauthammer to drop his communist crusade against employer-based (i.e., according to Drudge, "all private") coverage.

9. You will not be issued a "National Health Insurance ID." While we thought this was a fun idea, the final version of the health care reform bill will not require you to have any kind of ID when you're pulled over for drunk driving or found loitering outside of a military base. In fact, you are hereby encouraged not to carry any proof of insurance whatsoever. Trust me, it's a terrible idea!

10. There will be no super-secret-awesome health care program for ACORN employees. Though we love our election-stealing squirrels, we have decided that they'll have to settle for the same options as everyone else.


With these concessions having been made, I trust that we can now move forward on health care reform with a broad, bipartisan consensus. Blue Dogs and Republicans, you can now rest easy knowing that the concerns of the town hall protesters have been met. While the progressive dream of a nation in which old people are slaughtered to pay for the abortions of ACORN-employed illegal immigrants will again have to be deferred, we are willing to settle for a bill without these measures in the name of bipartisanship.

Congratulations, Republicans. You've won this round.

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REACTIONSAscending | Descending

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Thursday, 13 August 2009
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Reno Sepulveda
Friday, 14 August 2009
She's not a Doctor but she plays one at town hall meetings

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Friday, 14 August 2009
Davo, this piece is brilliant. Thanks for sharing.
davo
Friday, 14 August 2009
i guess there are "joe the plumbers" on all sides....
Dan Stuart
Friday, 14 August 2009
Keep the government away from my Medicare... and Social Security too! Ronnie was so right about that back in 61! First they give you health care, then they take away your guns! You're gonna tax my Big-Gulp? I want my America back!

The teabaggers are God's gift to a progressive agenda...

Friday, 14 August 2009
I looked up the "jobs" offer--I was thinking of applying. Turns out it is a highly questionable organization called "Fund for the Public Interest" that hires mostly college kids to raise funds for progressive causes. Most of the money raised goes to the organization, then they turn the donor's names over to the real organizations so they can ask them for more money.

Creepy racket, but they DON"T go to town hall meetings--no cash in that.

And of course, nobody should represent themselves as a physician if they are not. But that article was in what seemed to be a biased conservative website. And it criticized another Obama organizer for being at the town hall--nothing wrong with that, as long as she does not claim she's an independent.
Dan Stuart
Friday, 14 August 2009
I just wish the Demos were smart enough to infiltrate and inflame the teabaggers then they would be on equal footing with the RNC in down and dirty tactics!

BTW, I have plenty of experience with both private and single payer systems having been treated for various ailments, broken bones etc in the US, Sweden, Australia, Britain, Italy and Spain and I'm certainly not the only one. I've yet to see one interview in the big bad mainstream media that asks an average person what their experiences have been like in both systems. Gotta keep 'tard nation entertained!

davo
Friday, 14 August 2009
ok,,, i'll bite, mr stuart, what has your experiences been the various health systems throughout your global journey? personally, my best care came as a government issue dependent, in the socialist health system provided to the us military...i have never gotten equivalent care since i started paying for it (and i have been lucky enough to be in some of the nations best HMO's).
Dan Stuart
Friday, 14 August 2009
I wasn't being coy Davo just stating the obvious. I guess the biggest difference (which isn't such a big difference anymore) is that with single payer your waiting time is longer all around from scheduling appointments to waiting to see the Doc. Of course on an emergency basis triage kicks in and it's pretty much the same except for the huge bill upon discharge. Level of care was always first rate but I'm sure bad doctors are everywhere. I have never been denied treatment based on residency overseas and was never presented with a bill. The reason is where do you draw the line? Believe me, in Italy they aren't happy treating gypsys and the like but they realize that the state has humanitarian obligations... terrible isn't it? Obviously with single payer systems preventive medicine and pre-natal care are big to save money later on. They also do less "cover your ass" testing all around due to lawsuit control. I think it's worth noting that doctors/clinicians are way more happy generally in Europe although they make half what the croakers do here. The reason is they are on salary, aren't paying back huge student loans and spend most of their time practicing medicine instead of arguing with beancounters at multiple HMO's and their nervous shareholders. Of course private doctors and clinics exist for those that need a heart and lung transplant at age 90 and those groovy sheep placenta injections. As far as the soylent green death panels you would not believe the level of emergency and long term care my Spanish father-in-law is getting after a major stroke at the age of 75... and this with a Spanish economy that has been the hardest hit in all of Europe. BTW, this care was available to him in a very working poor neighborhood of Barcelona.

So no bogeyman for me but I realize that single payer for the US is an opportunity lost after WWII when virtually every other westernized country went with common sense. A lot of blame should be put on the AMA which is very unpopular now amongst a majority of doctors. Why hasn't that story been told?

It is interesting that the military and VA are getting generally good marks for cost and quality of care... that wasn't always the case back in the day. Where is the story about how the VA got it together?

Of course most of the noise has nothing to do with health care... I want my Marcus Welby back! And tell him to fire that Mexican nurse of his!

Postmod should become a 2010 census taker... would love to read her reports!



Dan Stuart
Friday, 14 August 2009
Okay I forgot about private insurance. About half of my adult life in the US I have had no insurance so it was urgent care or bust. Cobra coverage (thanks Ronnie!) got my kid born which was a huge relief. I believe we were paying about 250 a month back in 97. According to Harper's Index since 2002 average premiums have gone up 87 percent while profits at the top ten insurance companies have gone up 428 percent. Ouch. Obviously I could have purchased some sort of catastrophic coverage in those uncovered years but chose not to... is that fair to society? Shit, car insurance is mandatory. Once at a painting gig I started coughing blood and got treated at a reduced cost clinic started by chicano activists but I had to lie about my zip code. Went to the front of the line though because they thought I might have had infectious TB! Mexicans were pissed this gabacho was getting the star treatment! Nowadays I'm on a very good plan that was won by NYC's civil service unions like the police and fire department. I believe the reason the plan has been so good (no referral's needed, etc.) is that it was a not for profit company. Recently we were notified that it has changed to a for profit company so we shall see what happens. I'll tell you what though, Doctors are the new UPS guys, even the specialist's I've seen blaze through the exam in under 10 minutes. My eye guy is a three hour wait, minimum. I did make him laugh when I asked if his favorite director was Luis Bunuel. This guy saved me from very invasive surgery that another croaked thought I needed. Where did he get his great skills? US Military treating soldiers.



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